Along the way, he directed music videos, including Nirvanas Heart-Shaped Box and Depeche Modes Personal Jesus.

But when I heard Joy DivisionsUnknown Pleasures, that pushed me towards making the move and making it real.

I met them within 12 days of moving to England.

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A weight to it.

And youve been living in England ever since?Ive lived here nearly 28 years now.

But to be honest Im about to move back to Holland.

I came to England because of Joy Division and now that Ive made the movie Im leaving again.

Its like Ive come full circle and its the right time.

My idea was to show them walking away towards unknown pleasures.

So it wasnt based on their faces.

You were also invited to photograph the Love Will Tear Us Apart video session.

I couldnt really consider myself a friend of Ians because I couldnt put two lines together.

Did you get any sense of how troubled Ian was?No, not at all.

He was a bit held back, but I found him to be very friendly.

He was a little absent, but were there strong indications he was going to kill himself?