Prentice Penny reveals what got cut from the finale and teases what’s coming in season 5.
Warning: This article contains spoilers from the season 4 finale ofInsecure.
There was nothing low key aboutInsecure’s season 4 finale.
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So all’s well that ends well right?
ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: Issa and Mollys relationship is at the core of the show.
Were you worried that testing their relationship would shake the show’s foundation too much?
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For us, I dont think we think about it too much.
I dont know if thats good or bad.
We just think about things that interest us, and if we find it interesting maybe the audience will.
But we never thought too far past, This was interesting to explore.
Sometimes shaking the foundation is great.
You want to see if that foundation can stand.
The finale ends with them finally coming together to have a conversation that’s long overdue.
Were talking about that a lot in the writers' room now.
I dont think its about getting them back to where they were.
Were not changing the foundations of who they are as people.
But I dont think its about letting them be where they were.
I think were trying to let them be like a 2.0 version of themselves.
A lot of fans started guessing Condola was pregnant a couple episodes ago.
She didnt know she was pregnant then.
She was actually calling to get back together.
In our world, she found out in between episodes 9 and 10.
So [episode 8] wasnt the moment she knew.
How should we interpret that final moment for them?
Is this the end of Issa and Lawrence?
I mean, you have to wait until season 5.
Wheres the fun in that?
So its purposefully ambiguous?
Yes, its purposefully ambiguous,that thats the moment we leave the scene.
You dont know what was said because we dont really go into the next day.
Really, Molly calls her the same day and they get together that night.
We never saw them say, This is it.
We just go out on that moment.
The stuff we want to explore in season 5 is, what happens now?
We talked about that in the room a lot.
Was the intercutting between Lawrences conversation with Condola and his conversation with Issa scripted?
That scene actually took a little bit of an evolution.
When we originally broke it, we broke it as two different scenes.
That felt more dynamic.
Hes having sex with both them and hes kind of forgetting his answers with one.
I always loved that sequence and so I was like, What if we tried something like that?
We filmed that scene in December and it was so funny.
Im not gonna end up on the news.
Like, let me just handle this a different way.
Lets not make this be a thing that doesnt have to be thing.
But yeah, it was very surreal watching it a little bit in the climate that were in.
Its funny, that was actually the intention.
Originally, this episode was supposed to lean more into theLooking for Latoya[style].
The wholeLooking for Latoya[story around Tiffany], we shot very docu-series style.
Theres much more whip-pans and not really cutting a lot, you really rack focusing a lot.
I really wanted to shoot it like a docu-series, and it doesnt really have a lot of theInsecureframing.
We really wanted to create that feel.
When Derek is telling the girls what happened, we actually shot reenactments.
We shot the reenactments to look likeLooking for Latoya,but it was with Tiffany.
Going into season 5, you have a lot of history to draw on for story.
What else can we expect from the next season?
And can [Molly and Issas] friendship be better and what does that look like?
Can Issa have success professionally?
Has the internet reaction shaped some of those discussions?
Like there are people wholoveNathan.
One of the things were still baffled about is people really thinking thats not Dereks baby.
We dont understand why people think that.
We think people want more soapy drama, but were like, Were not that show.
We made an off-handed joke about some guy at Tiffanys office that liked her and that was it.
But now its become like, Thats not Dereks baby!
and were just like, Jesus, that was a joke in episode 2!
Insecurewas renewed for a fifth season on HBO.
