Warning: This story contains plot details from Sunday’s season 3 finale ofKilling Eve.
Also joining them: Carolyn’s superior, Paul (Steve Pemberton).
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SALLY WOODWARD GENTLE:Well, I just think they couldn’t get shot again.
[Laughs] And also, for Eve to say, “You’ve got to release me.
I can’t stop thinking about you.”
And for Villanelle to say, “Well, it’s really easy.
You just walk away.”
She knows that Eve is going to be looking back at her.
Is that point-scoring, or is it actually something much more fundamental than that?
And that’s quite an interesting way to look at it.
You’re already answering my next question.
Villanelle is so incredibly selfish and self-consumed.
Or was it actually more manipulative and she knew that she probably couldn’t help herself but look back?
Sounds like it’s a little more of the latter.
I think it’s a little bit more [of that].
She wouldn’t help but be tempted because her ego is so massive as well.
She needed to have confirmation.
She was, like, 99.9 percent sure she’d turn around and Eve would be looking at her.
Wouldn’t that be great?
[Laughs] Yeah, that would be lovely.
That would be brilliant.
But I think that they are.
She’s also attracted by the attention that one person put on her.
And that is really intoxicating and hard to walk away from.
That’s really hard to step away from that.
Is this psychopath capable of real change?
How much growth is even possible here?
But these have been some of the most hopeful moments to date.
This has been the most emotional journey for Villanelle.
Villanelle didn’t like the lack of control she felt about that.
But she was also intrigued about who she was and where she comes from.
And then her mother says to her, “Listen, you’ve always been like this.
You’re always rotten to the core.”…
But that is going to leave something in Villanelle: “Well, can she change?
Is her fate really always going to be one thing?”
She’s really clever.
She’s going to ask those questions, and she will see how different she could become.
And whether she can become different, I do not know.
How did the writers feel about Eve and Villanelle possibly winding up together?
You really think this is going to last?"
Maybe we’ll do that.
I’d love to see a couples counseling between Eve and Villanelle.
How much of Konstantin’s claims about Kenny should we believe?
I don’t think we should ever believe Konstantin.
He’s going to say anything to get out of a sticky situation.
And he’s clearly absolutely terrified for his life.
He believes that Carolyn will pull that trigger, and he calls on Villanelle.
And that is, for me, heartbreaking.
I think it’s actually a brilliant performance.
I don’t think you should ever trust Konstantin with anything.
I think that was ultimately it.
And she couldn’t bear to kill him and just had to kill someone.
He told Dasha, twice, that she wasn’t leaving this hospital room alive.
Of course we talked about that.
Is Konstantin actually responsible for her death?
Although we did constantly play with whether he just pulls the plug out.
Is that the end of the investigation into Kenny’s death?
I don’t know.
I’ll just leave it at that.
I think there is a bigger change in Carolyn.
Our backstory for Carolyn is there in the show, which she is born into a diplomatic family.
She’s worked that system, she knows how it operates.
There’s always somebody that will come and clean up the mess.
But shooting Paul is the biggie.
We have seen that she’s far, far more broken by the death of Kenny.
She’s not an android.
She cares and feels deeply, and Kenny was her child and she said he was always mine.
Geraldine was her father’s, but Kenny was hers.
And ultimately she brought that boy into that world, and she feels massively responsible for his death.
So I don’t think she’s as bouncy as Villanelle is.
I do think Fiona Shaw is brilliant.
She’s absolutely exceptional in this season.
So I think you could take it on lots of different levels.
Niko told Eve to piss off forever from his hospital bed.
Might that character return next season, or was that the last we’ve seen of him?
Who the devil knows?
He’s not dead.
[Laughs] As far as we know.
Can you talk about the decision tonotkill him from the pitchforking?
We did debate those both ways.
And I think that’s really important for Eve’s psyche as well.
She gets wounded twice, really.
Which arguably he should have done a lot earlier.
That’s a really interesting question.
In doing what she did, I suspect she knew the consequence of it.
How concerned should Villanelle be?
I think she should be pretty concerned.
You finished filming season 3 before the coronavirus shut down all production.
What is the status of season 4?
We haven’t taken our foot off the pedal.
The writers are in the room now.
We should have three episodes written really shortly.
So I can absolutely see a way that we could on air in 2021.
What is a question should viewers be thinking about as they await season 4?
Oh, gosh!…
And that’s very much an Eve thing.
And what’s the tiniest tease about season 4 you’ve got the option to leave us with?
“Change is possible.”
