“It’s far better to do something dramatic with him,” says Sally Woodward Gentle.
Warning: The story contains spoilers about Sunday’s episode ofKilling Eve, “Still Got It.”
So… did Poland’s newest baker just meet his maker?
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Has Dasha uncorked a chain of events that will worsen Villanelle’s problems?
And how the hell will Eve come back from this latest tragedy?
Let’s launch the barn doors and welcome inKilling Eveexecutive producer Sally Woodward Gentle.
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ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: Niko, too?
How did the writers decide on this twist of plot and that thrust of a pitchfork?
Eve has actually been quite vile to him for years.
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He’s been desperately abused by her.
She has gaslit him several times.
When he found his lovely teacher [a.k.a.
So at some point, Niko probably had to get it.
But as the story progressed, it is probably right that it wasn’t Villanelle who did it.
you might understand what that dynamic may have been like when Dasha was training her up.
Can you confirm that Niko is dead?
He seemed to be in a death rattle at the end of the episode.
I can never confirm, one way or another, whether a character is dead or not.
What was Owen’s reaction when you pitched him the pitchfork?
Owens reaction was, I always knew it was coming.
I just never quite knew how.
[Laughs] Owen is fantastic.
He’s a fabulous actor, a very generous and loyal human being.
And he gets a great episode.
Will we see him again this season, whether it’s flashback form or otherwise?
As you hinted, Dasha may have just set off events that could backfire on her.
It seems now that Eve would be gunning for vengeance.
We know that Eve has got a very deep darkness inside her.
I think Dasha would probably need to watch her back if Eve ever discovered that it was her.
Eve is already pretty broken.
Shes still recovering from that gunshot wound, not to mention Kenny’s death.
Is she now power-activated by this?
Shes been through so much.
What is really going to break Eve?
And how much resilience has she got?
What really fires you?
Are you going to give up and are you just going to fall into a crumpled heap?
Or is it going to motivate you?
You do weird things when you’re in grief.
you’ve got the option to have extraordinary depths of power and energy.
And maybe that is something that Eve could draw on.
He ended up in the hospital with PTSD.
Weve also seen that Niko has a generous reserve of anger toward her.
I think she’s closer to Villanelle in lots of ways.
She has moments where she is the center of her own universe.
And definitely in season 2, she felt that she was pursuing something that was worthwhile and justified.
And I don’t think she’s really completely shaken that off.
And ultimately, what is your future with them?
Let’s say that Eve had shown up and Niko didn’t receive that pitchforking.
He was startled to see her, naturally.
What would’ve happened next?
Was there any hope for repair?
It would take an awful lot.
I think there is residual love there.
Is that a fair assumption?
I think most people felt, Poor, poor Niko.
There were some people that went, Why didnt he leave her sooner?
[Laughs] So there’s a degree of that.
That’s for sure.
Villanelle has always wanted Eve for herself and has gone after Niko before.
In one way, this helps scrub the path for that.
How might she react when she learns what happened and that she was framed by Dasha?
I don’t think it would stop her for a moment.
So I think that it proves that Dasha probably hadn’t thought this one through properly.
How suspicious will Eve be that Villanelle may not have written the note?
It would be an instinct thing about the person that she knows.
And Geraldine withholds that bit of information.
Carolyn’s a spy; shes not stupid.
She’s used to reading people and seeing when people are trying to hide information.
And Geraldine is her daughter.
I love that relationship so much.
It’s got a long way to go.
Now he’s got Carolyn on his case as well.
Is Irina (Yuli Lagodinsky) right?
Is Konstantin in danger because he’s in desperate need of a plan?
He is a man in need of a plan that holds water.
[Laughs]
In the last scene of the episode, Villanelle gets off the train in Russia.
What can you tease about this Villanelle-centric episode when she tracks down her family?
This is something that everybody has lied to her about.
Theres nobody there for you.
They probably didnt love you in the first place.
By the way, theyre all dead.
That’s one thing that has really driven her.
Again, that would impact on her ego.
Does next week’s episode shed light on these behavior(s)?
I think it does.
It’s quite childish.
She finds silly things quite funny, and she finds absurdity quite funny.
To see where that might have come from is good.
And episode 5 might challenge Villanelle as to what she really wants out of life and what feels good.
How much more damage collateral or otherwise are we headed toward in the back half of the season?
There are a lot more people that we care about who have got it this year.
And we’re not over that yet.
