It has to have a meaningful conclusion.

So his tone of voice when I picked up the phone was clear.

What was it like filming this season?

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Or both?I think that this season has two different tones to me that link up.

Were talking a lot about the ending, but that feeling for me set in the last three episodes.

And educational, as far as human communication is concerned.

What analogies would you use to describe this final season?

It is frustrating, requires effort, hilarious at times, and in the end is really meaningful.

And over too soon.

The final episodes [have] such major life lessons, its crazy.

There are new characters in the mix this season, including two new test subjects.

What does that do to the dynamic?

Thats got to be painful.

Seems like theres at least two big challenges facing her early in the season.Yeah.

And shes never wanted to lead anything in her entire life because shes never cared enough to lead.

She is faced with whether or not she can actually be selfless.

She now knows why being selfless is important, but can she actually do it?

But in the way that it makes the audience feel.

Its not like everybody dies in a fiery car crash.

What it says to the audience is what was so heavy to me.

And I thought, Wow, are people actually even going to want to hear this?

Because its easier not to.

Theres so much pressure on the show these days to stick the landing.

I actually applied some pressure to Mike.

I said, You better make this good!

You better make this worth it!

[Laughs] I didnt feel any pressure because I am not in charge of that writers room.

He never let on like it was a ton of pressure.

This will be worth it.

It will give you a lot of feelings and one is a strong sense of satisfaction.

Not only will the ending be worth it, youll understand why thewhole thingwas worth it.