The Micronesia champ talks about her evolution from flirt to mom.

But that was all a decade ago.

(The increased financial guaranteedidn’t hurt either.)

Why was she not getting a good vibe from Sandra before the game?

And which women is she looking to recruit into the Black Widow Brigade 2.0?

It’s been 10 years.

A lot of things have changed.

Probably the biggest things that have changed are I have made the commitment of a lifetime.

I’ve gotten married and I have a baby, a 10-month-old little baby girl.

She’s the love of my life.

How hard was it for you to make the decision to come out here?

And up until a couple of months ago, I was breastfeeding her exclusively.

It was eating me up.

So I had some conversations.

There’s some of that going on.

So I think that he is pushing me to live out one of his unfulfilled dreams.

And so for me, part of me was like, “No, I can’t.

How can I do this?

She’s too young.

I’m still breastfeeding.

I just want to be a mom right now.”

And the other part of me is, “But I’m more than that.”

AndSurvivorand winningSurvivorand losingSurvivorin a heartbreaking way is part of who I was before I had a baby.

Because, as you know, your emotions are so amplified out there.

Are you worried about that?Yeah.

I mean, I’ve already cried in an interview and I’m fully fed and basically slept.

I know I’m going to melt down.

And I also think that’s okay.

No one’s ever seen that side of me playing this game.

That was it, especially inCook Islands.

Now you’re married, you have a kid.

You’re so different now.

That has to mean you’re different as a player, right?It has to mean that.

I don’t know what that really means.

I think it’s an incredible accomplishment and achievement of a lifetime to be a mom.

So I don’t know how they’re going to place me in the show categories.

But for me, in my own mind, I’m going to be myself.

And I think people just feel like I’m flirting with them even when I’m not.

And maybe they feel less threatened by that.

How do you think other players will see you now?I think I’m an easy target.

She’s been voted in the top few winners of all time over and over and over again.

And, I get it.

I understand and I see why they think that.

Let’s think a little bit deeper here."

So one of my weaknesses is I have never found an idol without a clue.

I’ve never just gone hunting in the jungle and looked for an idol and found one.

Well, you’re used to not getting sleep.

It’s worked out for me.

As we know, you and Sandra have a history fromHeroes vs. Villains, so let’s start there.

How do you think that plays out?God, man.

I don’t get a good vibe from Sandra.

I really don’t.

Or do you think it’s both?That’s a good question.

I think it might be both.

I think it might be.

So why would we hit it off this time?

I don’t have anything to prove to Sandra or to anyone else about being the queen.

Sandra’s the Night King?Yeah.

What about the other women that you’re here with?

She’s smart, she’s really likable, she’s super strong.

She seems like a loyal person.

So that would be helpful.

I want to work with people who are different from me.

So I think Kim would be an easy one because people will assume that we would probably connect.

She’s a mom, I’m a mom.

We’re similar age and stuff.

But there’s also people who I think that people won’t anticipate working with me.

I don’t know if people know that Sophie and I have a relationship outside of the game.

It’s possible that they do.

But if they don’t know that, I doubt that people would put us together.

But Sophie’s brilliant.

I mean she reads a book an hour.

And Denise, I think.

She’s not a big personality.

She’s not a big threat, but she’s really strong.

She’s got some energetic intensity.

I just am really fascinated and curious about Denise.

Twitter was just starting out when you were last on.

I’m sure that’s a consideration when you take on this whole thing.

I’m totally exposed out here.

If I could take that back, I really would like to take that back."

Or do I play to win?

But what is noble and honor in this game?

That’s a whole other conversation.

You were dubbed the villain.

But what does that mean in the grand scheme of things?

Because it is a game and emotions are going to come out.

It’s a game of scarcity.

One person can win, kill or be killed.

So the survival instinct takes over and there’s a lot of brutality that goes along with that.

Plus, it’s like a gossip arena.

So that’s how the game is played.

It has to be.

You have to lie and deceive and cheat in this game, and I know that coming back in.

So it’s kind of like, haters gonna hate.

What’s your ultimate goal out here besides winning?

I’m so different.

So I’m really curious to see: Who am I going to be?

It’s the time to do it.

It’s season 40, it’s a big thing.

And also, part of me is like, “Wait a minute, who am I?

What do I stand for in addition to being a mom to this baby?”