Im on shrooms, he says, not exactly explaining the heavy coat on a hot afternoon.
Ive been up for three days.
Its probably my best album…. Madlib first connected with Gibbs through the rappers manager a decade ago.

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Its a natural thing, says the producer, about working together.
We trust each other.
Trust doesnt always equal candidness, though.

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Adds, Gibbs, Hes the most mysterious man in music not easy to read.
But that approach is also why he loves their partnership.
Thats the beauty of it, says Gibbs, as he accepts another glass of the Domaine Roulot.
Because he gives me a challenge, you know what I mean?
Their in-studio relationship has also extended outside of music.
Im like, What the f is this s?
reflects the rapper on his initial reaction to wine.
[Madlib] kinda made me grow up a little bit.
The producer himself has been an oenophile for years.
I used to drink Hennessy, whiskey, he says.
Then his business partner, Now-Again Records founder Eothen Alapatt a.k.a.
Egon, hipped him to vinobubbly specifically.
Its easier to drink.
Speaking of, the artists are now on to a glass of Demiere-Ansiot as talk turns toBandana.
Having memorized Madlibs beats, the rapper wrote most of the albums verses in a cell.
I had to dig out of a different place to make it.
I literally wrote it like it was about to be my last album.
I know people always say it like, Yeah, man, this is the last.
It took me to a whole other level as an MC, as a songwriter.
I trust him to take a beat.
Everyone thinks we sitting here… Gibbs quickly chimes in, wine in hand: All that calculator s is for the birds.
Pinata,Bandana, andMontana.
Its a trilogy, says Gibbs.
But could it be another five years before it sees the light of day, like the last one?
Black Star (theyve recorded eight tracks so far).
Adds Gibbs about a release date, We dont think about it.
Like fine wine, it will take time.