Its the day they brought you home.

from their one-night stand.

What was it like to film the shows most brutal fight and, sure, the cologne ad?

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How did Randall’s words impact Kevin’s decision with Madison to go “all in”?

Is there still hope for Kevin and Sophie (Alexandra Breckenridge)?

ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: Well, that was darker than expected.

What was your first reaction when you read that script and saw those words being hurled?

You know what I mean?

That’s what they were doing to each other.

It was slow, painful, awful.

I mean, it was bad.

It was like, I’m gonna say this.

But if I say it and Im calm, now you know that this is what I actually think.

I mean, thats some terrible s they said to each other, you know?

And I like that metaphor.

What do you remember about filming that scene?

How did you and Sterling handle it?

Ill tell you the truth, though.

He and I laugh our asses off.

We were joking the whole time, sitting side by side.

He’s one of my best friends.

And so nothing changed.

We ran the scene a couple of times just to get the words out.

But it was so well written.

I’m not the kind of person that would avoid him for an entire day.

I can say whatever I want to him as Kevin.

And there’s nothing that’s going to be left out there.

We’re a couple of athletes, a couple of animals, and it was fun….

I had a blast.

But what a great way to send off season 4, huh?

You mentioned that you were cracking jokes.

Any stick out to you that you might share?

You do realize that?

He’s like, Okay!

I’m like, Okay!

Well, we’ll see what happens!

[Laughs]

What did you think about this being the issue that ultimately fractured Randall and Kevin?

Obviously caring for a parent is very fraught and loaded situation, and can divide families.

This is what families are, right?

It all got talked about in that final fight.

I always thought Kevin felt guilt for not being there, and that’s kind of where it ended.

He wouldnt have allowed that to happen.

So he’s got this resentment towards his brother the wrong guy was there.

You didn’t have the right man for the job.

That is a massive statement that he made.

And he’d been holding on to that for years.

So when he finally said it, he said, Oh, are we finally gonna do this?

Then he just let him have it.

These two brothers said lacerating things that cant be unsaid.

Whose words will leave a greater wound on the other person here?

[Deep breath] Gosh.

In the moment it’s the things that are being said to you.

And that’s what fuels the things that you say in return.

So I think it depends onwhenyou ask.

I don’t know if I can separate myself from it.

Just because of the nature of my job, really.

I mean, I get the other side of it.

I don’t like the tactic that was used, but I definitely get it.

It’s very much like politics, isn’t it?

I mean, until recently….

There’s not a question in Kevin’s head that this is what Randall thinks is best.

Its the way in which he got it done that he’s struggling with.

This is a manipulation.

This is taking advantage of a situation.

That’s the problem that he had.

Call me an idiot, but, I don’t know, nine months is a long time.

So I don’t know if I can be as objective as anyone else.

You know what the funny thing is?

I don’t totally know.

But they’re brothers this is not going to divide them until their deathbeds and they don’t speak.

Thats how I took it to mean.

But I think it’s going to take a while.

How does that fight impact his decision making and psyche?

That’s so funny that you said that.

Maybe it would’ve happened that day, but it would’ve taken a little bit longer.

This is where I’m at.

This is what I’m going to do with the rest of my life.

I’m all in.

I guess it impacted in the way that he did it.

I don’t know if it impacted his final decision, but that’s a lot to hear.

And the reason why it hurt so much is because Kevin is afraid that it might be true.

seems as if Kevin will be “all in” with Madison, for now.

Might this all be a red herring and he could get there?

It might be, and he could still get there.

Things happen, every day, and it’s like, Well, I didn’t see this happening.

And it’s like, how do you adapt?

How do you adjust?

How do you live your life?

It’s incredible the journey this guy’s taken.

He’s lived several lives in one lifetime so far, it’s pretty incredible.

Did you remind him of that?

You know, some things you just can’t help, man.

Apparently she just couldn’t stay away, I don’t know.

But he wrote her sleeping with Kevin, so I guess that’s the difference.

It was very loaded and mixed.

And also, I dont believe him for a second.I believe he will find that.

Very loaded and mixed.

He’s hurt Sophie a few times.

He’s also had it; he had it in his hand and he let it go.

I’m all in.

I will dive in this with you.

He’s not promising her anything that he doesn’t think he can give her.

So I think it’s a very responsible adult reaction as well.

Could she possibly fill that romantic hole in his life down the road?

Certain circumstances lend themselves to people changing their minds or sort of rethinking things that they thought.

And also, I mean, gosh, he didn’t see this happening, right?

He doesn’t even know her.

So I think that’s definitely a possibility, for sure.

I don’t know.

I mean, we saw Kate at the 40th birthday party, we didn’t see Randall.

The cologne ad where you show some nip.

Youre a brave man, but you could back it up.

What was that shoot like?

Did you actually pose for that or did they Photoshop something together?

That is me, come on now!

We have these two lovely models that came in and were very game, too.

They were very gracious and understood the whole thing.

It was really quick.

It was really easy.

I thought we nailed that one.

Hopefully people will get a kick out of it.

We’re going to find out more about this feud that Kevin and Randall are having.

The health of their mom, how rapidly its deteriorating.

And there’s a whole Toby and Kate thing with the baby that goes on.

But we’ll see.

Can you drop a finale clue about season 5 that will make us wonder what you meant?

I wonder if Kevin being all in with Madison is really that at all.

I wonder if he’s really all in with Madison.

And I wanted to ask you: How have you been coping with the coronavirus pandemic while housebound?

Listen, I havent budged.

My dog is trained in everything but English now.

Shes the most well-trained dog ever, this little puppy.

And I’m turning this body into a piece of steel.

All I do is work out and play with my dog and talk to my daughter.

Has there been any early talk about how this might impact production on season 5?

I know you finished season 4 in the nick of time.

The producers have said that theyre hoping to start on time, but well see.

We dont know yet.

I think we just all stay safe and stay responsible and healthy and we’ll just see what happens.

I mean, if they say we can go back to work in July, we’ll go back.

And if not, then we’ll just wait until everything’s okay.

I’m ready for the next Marvel movie, buddy!

Are you kidding me?

I’m ready to go.